Highlights of the Podcast:
02:02 – The international energy transition and then the energy question
02:54 – The Brant Natural gas expected to generate half of U.S
03:47 – The Supreme Court voted down
04:38 – The reduction of coal plants and the increase of natural gas
05:57 – The grid managers from the regional grids in the United States were in Las Vegas
07:01 – The most economic way to build is with natural gas right now
10:12 – The new regulations are trying to do carbon capture
19:28 – For the government to convince people to switch from gas cars to. EVs
23:23 – Netflix movie with Julia Roberts
24:15 – The big movie market is over in China
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3 Podcasters Walk in a Bar – Episode 42 with Dr Ed Ireland
Stuart Turley [00:00:13] Hello, everybody. You ever heard that crazy old uncle. Now that it’s Christmas time and he’s sitting there and the uncle’s going at these three guys walk into the bar. Well, I have to know the other two crazy guys that walk into a bar. Hello. My name’s Stu Turley, president and CEO of the Sandstone Group. Today is a Fantastic episode of The Crude Truth. Oh, wait a minute. That’s his. This is RT RT is the podcast host for the Crude Truth, and he’s one of the big dogs over there at Pecos operating Country Country. How are you doing?
Rey Treviño [00:00:49] Good, Stu. How are you doing?
Stuart Turley [00:00:51] That root beer was a little tough today.
Rey Treviño [00:00:53] It’s good, though, that one Said Arnold Drake. It’s a good. Ah, yeah.
Stuart Turley [00:00:59] And we have a special guest that stopped by the podcast today. I mean, he is a myth. He is a legend. He is the Dr. Ireland. And you’ve got to follow him on his substack. Dr. Ireland, thank you for coming by.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:01:15] Thank you Stu, Glad to be here
Stuart Turley [00:01:16] I’ll tell you what, for our podcast listeners, I love his haircut, by the way. Just thought I’d share that with you, We have David Blackmon remote. He’s on assignment today and David Blackmon is one of them gigantic guys. He is a legend in my mind,
David Blackmon [00:01:35] And I’m getting Bigger all the time.
Stuart Turley [00:01:35] Oh, yes. In fact, he’s had to order another ten gallon had so we can get 20 gallon in it. Pretty soon he’ll be there doing a barrel of oil in his hair. David is a Substack author. He’s on the crude tru, No. He’s on the crude.
David Blackmon [00:01:53] I am not . I wasn’t on the Crude Truth.
Stuart Turley [00:01:54] And he was on the energy question. All that is, was the energy question. And when he’s also on the international energy transition and then the energy question. So, David, thank you for stopping by.
David Blackmon [00:02:10] Hey, I’m just so happy to be here and not there where you are and you just can’t imagine.
Stuart Turley [00:02:17] You sound like
David Blackmon [00:02:18] I’m kidding, I’m joking, I’m joking.
Stuart Turley [00:02:19] Okay. You sound like you had a hemorrhoid, but we’ll leave that.
Rey Treviño [00:02:23] That’s a good podcast.
Stuart Turley [00:02:24] That’s a whole lot. Yeah. The three hemorrhoids walked into a bar.
David Blackmon [00:02:27] There you go,.
Rey Treviño [00:02:28] Well,.
Stuart Turley [00:02:29] Okay,.
Rey Treviño [00:02:29] I’ll tell you what, I’m excited. I mean, to have David on as always, and to have Dr. Ed Ireland, who stumbled into the bar here a little while ago. We go Ed come on in and come join us today,.
Stuart Turley [00:02:40] And then we’re going to hand the tab to him.
Rey Treviño [00:02:42] Yes.
Stuart Turley [00:02:42] One of the things that I thought was this here is is for our folks at home, Ed Ireland Substack. He put out a heck of a substack in our team. We’re out in the Brant Natural gas expected to generate half of U.S. electricity in 2024 and the EPA announces new methane rules that will reduce natural gas supplies
David Blackmon [00:03:12] Changes. That’s genius. Government planning.
Stuart Turley [00:03:12] They’re genius.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:03:14] You just can’t make this stuff up.
Stuart Turley [00:03:16] Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What were you thinking when you wrote that?
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:03:20] I was. I was irritated because the EPA has despised natural gas for years and they want to shut it down and they’re trying it again. They tried it last with the you know, during Obama President Obama, they that EPA, which by the way, is mostly the same people still hanging around and writing the same regulations that the Supreme Court voted down. But they’re doing it again and I’m sure it’ll be voted down again or squashed by the Supreme Court. But yet here they are. They’re saying natural gas, you know, we’re going to do away with it, at least make the supplies tighter than we would otherwise be the case. And. At a time when natural gas is expected to generate more than half of the electricity in the United States. And that’s just a formula for disaster. It’s crazy.
Stuart Turley [00:04:23] Now the EIA, the same chatter heads excuse me, the same folks we were talking about did last year. They said the only reason that the U.S. reduce their carbon output and David has had this on his stuff was because of the reduction of coal plants and the increase of natural gas. And so you would think that they’d be kind of happy about it, but they snuck in under the rug right before all these new regulations. Right.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:04:53] That’s right.
Stuart Turley [00:04:53] Holy smokes.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:04:55] And you know, in the background, too, there, they’re continuing to try to make the use of natural gas, illegal natural gas stoves, natural gas generators, natural gas heaters, net water heaters, furnaces. They just can’t help themselves. They just want to get rid of natural gas because it’s too good. And otherwise, they, you know, they would let the market work. But they’re not going to let the market work because they know the market is going to support natural gas and needs more gas. And that’s that’s their response.
Rey Treviño [00:05:31] You Know, David, I’m seeing you. You’re nodding your head more than I’ve seen. You agree with somebody in a lot, what your thoughts.
David Blackmon [00:05:38] Well, I finally got somebody on this show. Just make it sit with me here. You know, I’m usually with just you two guys, you know. Ed knows what he’s talking about. I just you know, it’s a joke, but it’s true, you know? And it’s no accident that all of the grid managers from the regional grids in the United States were in Las Vegas at a conference two weeks ago. And every one of them is talking about we’re going to have a hard time getting through this winter without blackout problems because we don’t have enough baseload. And why don’t we have enough baseload generating capacity? It’s because the federal government has cracked down on the building of new coal and new natural gas plants, and the going after the gas plants is insane. And it’s it’s a an intentional effort, I think. I mean, I don’t even know what to think about it. You have to believe it’s intentional that they want to have power blackouts during winter months. And because everyone knows what this is all leading to. There’s no mystery here. And you can’t build it. I mean, you can build all the windmills and solar arrays you want to build when the weather gets bad, they’re not going to perform and you have to have the baseload capacity. And the only way the the best way to build it, the most economic way to build is with natural gas right now. You know, maybe nuclear will have a nuclear revolution some point in the future that can also provide real 24 seven power generation. But, you know, we can’t we can’t have stability on our power grid with just renewables and everyone knows it. So all I can conclude from all what they’re doing is that they want, for whatever reason, for us to have an unstable grid and frequent blackouts.
Rey Treviño [00:07:35] You Know, one thing I’ll say and David, I know you’ve been a guest in Dr. Ireland’s class before. There
David Blackmon [00:07:43] Yes thats Great kids every semester.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:07:45] Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. David does a good job. They always love him.
Rey Treviño [00:07:50] Well, He I mean, it was the classic teachings of energy and entrepreneurship are entrepreneurship of energy. And God knows we need more of it, whether it’s clean burning or oil and gas. You need more jobs than we did yesterday. So I think it’s a very important class. But one thing I do know that in his class, it’s almost like every week he shows the power that ERCOT is being provided, whether it’s from wind, solar or natural gas. And, you know, you always look at it that natural gas is always the major provider of energy for ERCOT. And so my question really is, why is it that all they’re going to continue to do is, you know, demonize this natural gas when it provides us this real clean burning fuel source, and yet, you know, why? Why do they only continue to do that, especially when it’s so cheap? Right now, it’s less than $2 and it’s well, it’s about $2 to that sides.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:08:48] But I agree with David. I mean, it it it has to be intentional. Otherwise
Stuart Turley [00:08:53] that the other ball.
Rey Treviño [00:08:55] I know.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:08:58] I’m sorry.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:09:00] No, and it has to be intentional to to want to destabilize the power grids in the United States. And otherwise it the only sane thing to do is let the market work, that we have plenty of natural gas and we have the so far we have the operating facilities to to move the gas around and generate electricity with it. But at every turn, you know, you look at the state, not only the EPA, but California, New York, trying to shut down pipelines, trying to shut down the use of natural gas. I mean, everywhere you turn, natural gas is the enemy and it makes no sense at all.
Stuart Turley [00:09:44] David, you brought up the coal plants. The the new regulatory issues are with having to I can’t remember the name of the coal plants that are going to be only approving or you have a term for them
David Blackmon [00:10:03] Unabated. Yeah, I mean, yeah, but you know, we don’t build unabated coal plants in the United States that have it for half a century now.
Stuart Turley [00:10:10] And so when we sit back and the new regulations are trying to do carbon capture or they’re trying to do this, but they won’t build they’re gonna they approved any time they want. They need 7000 miles of pipelines to haul the carbon off in the new regulatory agency, and they won’t approve any of that. Where’s the oxymoron in this? It takes a village to raise an idiot mom. I don’t know.
David Blackmon [00:10:38] Well, that’s debatable without but Denbury resources because Denbury has that extensive pipeline system for carbon dioxide and that will facilitate ExxonMobil’s carbon capture operations. But, you know, I mean, you got everyone else wants to do it, too, and you’re going to have to have a lot more pipe and crap.
Rey Treviño [00:10:57] Well, You know, you mentioned how everybody else is doing this natural gas. You know, what about the fact that the Chinese actually the Japanese company just came in and bought that? What did they buy? A natural gas.
David Blackmon [00:11:08] U.S. Steel they bought U.S. steel.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:11:12] U.S. steel.
Rey Treviño [00:11:13] No, That was no, that’s that’s one of them.
Stuart Turley [00:11:15] Right. There was another one that just bought a natural gas.
David Blackmon [00:11:19] Oh. I didn’t see that. I misspoke.
Rey Treviño [00:11:21] Yeah, No, that’s that’s a whole other subject right there. I mean, the fact that they’re buying U.S. Steel that was, you know, created by Carnegie and continued by J.P. Morgan, the original J.P. Morgan. Right. Now, is that a place where the I mean, if that doesn’t really show where we’re going in America, I just I don’t know what does anymore. I mean, you know, there’s always something else. And then, you know, as as your great substack articles are always talked about absurdities. I mean, I think just a total absurdity right there, the fact that we’re now selling a company called U.S. Steel.
Stuart Turley [00:11:55] Dr. Ireland, an absurdity.
Rey Treviño [00:11:56] No,.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:11:57] No,.
Stuart Turley [00:11:57] You’re talking about David Substack.
Rey Treviño [00:12:02] Yeah. No. So anyway, but there’s also a Japanese company that’s buying the natural gas. So it just shows that natural gas, just like oil, is not going away anytime soon.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:12:13] On its own so they have to force it.
Rey Treviño [00:12:15] Yeah. Yeah. They have to force it
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:12:17] Let the market work.
Rey Treviño [00:12:17] Yeah I mean because if the market work, you would have so much more natural gas and you know, you were on my, my show the Crude Truth and we were talking about that the best price that natural gas could really be at is $5. And in MCF, where everybody’s happy, it’s not too expensive. And the M.P. companies can make a dollar, right? Yeah.
David Blackmon [00:12:38] Well, think about it. I mean, we’re in Texas, right? And Texas produces 30 to 35% of all the natural gas in the United States, the Permian Basin, second biggest natural gas producing basin in the country, second only to the Marcellus Shale. The Eagle Ford shale alone has enough natural gas in it, recoverable natural gas, or about a hundred years supply just in the Eagle Ford shale in this country. And so there’s there’s no reason why the Texas grid should ever have any stability issues and reliability issues. And yet we do. And the reason we do is because the federal government and to a lesser extent our state government, there’s all these incentives, disincentives in place for the building of new natural gas capacity. And that’s got to change before we start killing people with blackouts on the power grid.
Rey Treviño [00:13:35] You know and speaking of the Barnett Shale, you know, I want to highlight, you know, David, that you and Dr. Ireland have both been in the Barnett Shell since basically its inception. Well, you know, it’s been around for I’m sorry that that is probably the wrong word. It’s been around for a long time.
David Blackmon [00:13:52] It’s the horizontal drilling in.
Rey Treviño[00:13:54] Yeah, it’s all drilling. Inception. Yes. In about 2006 and now the Barnett Shale, it’s looking like it’s reaching all the way out to the Permian Basin. So, you know, just how much more natural gas could we even add to what we already have? We got big with good natural gas, our drilling in the Barnett in West Texas. Oh.
David Blackmon [00:14:14] Yeah. I mean, that’s just another another formation that’s going to be productive in the in the Permian Basin. But you know what? It’s a lot more liquid in the Barnett Shale rock out there in West Texas than there is up here in North Texas. And so it’s going to be a lot more associated condensate in that natural gas. And that’s a good thing, too, for the producers.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:14:36] Which also will keep the price of natural gas down.
David Blackmon [00:14:39] right.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:14:39] More associated gas. Basically, marginal cost is zero.
Rey Treviño [00:14:43] Yeah , Ed and then, of course, you know, you figure any wells that were drilled on a straight oil, that’s just an ancillary benefit. It’s the natural gas. Because at $2 in MCF, I mean, I can’t see myself drilling just natural gas day in less than now if you’re going well. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. But no to get back to this, the Japanese company is Tokyo Gas is buying Rockcliffe energy for about $2.7 billion. So, I mean, obviously the world knows that natural gas is not going away anytime cheaper. And again, just like oil, I mean, you know, in fact, isn’t that one of the first questions you ask your students every semester is what would you ask your students?
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:15:27] I don’t know.
Stuart Turley [00:15:29] What’s your name?
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:15:30] Right, Right, right. What do I ask my students?
David Blackmon [00:15:35] So what do I ask?
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:15:37] I as I ask them if. I said I have a question, my first question. Can renewables replace oil and gas? And the answer is yes. And in fact, I will say this. Everybody type it in. You have a laptop in front of you type in. Can renewables replace oil and gas? And if you type that in, it says yes, in capital letters. That’s what Google says. Yes. And of course, if you get in and read what? Is under that they they give the fans and but but the the answer will be yes. And for most people that’s where they stop. You know, they don’t go to the next level in the in the search. But so yeah it’s it’s no wonder that these students end up in college with, you know, 18 years being pounded into them. Climate change and fossil fuels back.
Rey Treviño [00:16:33] What a I can’t imagine by not coming in helps that having a bunch of students are like oh yeah, renewables can do that. They it’s like how how dumb can you be? Like I don’t mean to be. That’s the best way I could put it, I think.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:16:50] Yeah. You know, my view is it was not their fault. This one pounded into them, you know, from the beginning. So
David Blackmon [00:16:56] I mean what else are they supposed to think? Every media outlet tells them that every the Google tells them that when they Google it. I mean. There’s no. No effort by the industry or or people, well-meaning people in politics or anywhere else to counter that message. And so, you know, I mean, smartest kids in the world, if they’re propagandized or not, not enough like they have been there, that’s what they’re going to believe. It’s not their Fault.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:17:24] Yeah, That’s right.
Rey Treviño [00:17:24] David, I want to you have written two Substack articles in the past week since our last episode of three podcasts that were just downright hilarious, the first of which is the one about the incident that happened over in Washington, D.C. with a staffer. And you use the word drill.
David Blackmon [00:17:49] Well, yeah, we probably shouldn’t, but.
Stuart Turley [00:17:52] Did you guys see the GUTFELD show? You know, they. Oh, it was hilarious. The one liners in that bed.
Rey Treviño [00:17:59] And yours was hilarious talking about that. And then the other one that you wrote just yesterday was on that meme where it said, I broke up with him because he wanted to go buy an electric vehicle and he got huffing and puffing and put his hair up. And a man waited for the EV to charge. He drove off.
David Blackmon [00:18:19] As soon EVs charge in an hour. I’m out of here..
Stuart Turley [00:18:22] Yeah.
Rey Treviño [00:18:25] Oh, my gosh. What made you write that article? I mean, that one was like I said, this week you have had. So that.
David Blackmon [00:18:32] Article was about, You know. You know, I came across this ad from from Tesla or it was a promo that they’re sending out to all their customers who have bought their cars, offering them free sessions with a charging consultant. Okay. Because ensuring you’re able to charge your Tesla and knowing where to do it and how to do it and and when the Chargers are going to be working and when they’re not is such a complicated matter. Tesla has to offer consulting services to their customers. And I thought my. First thought was, you know. I don’t have to have a consultant tell me where the gas station is and how to turn the pump on. It’s a whole lot. And this is one of the reasons why. And it’s serious. I mean, I’m serious about this. One of the reasons why it’s so hard.
Stuart Turley [00:19:26] It’s funny when it’s serious.
David Blackmon [00:19:28] Yeah, well. For the government to convince people to switch from gas cars to. EVs. Is owning a me really is complicated, man. And people have enough complications in their lives already. I don’t need, you know, at my age, I don’t need anybody confusing me or offering or complicating my life anymore, much less my damn car doing. Right. So you’re never going to convince me to buy an electric vehicle. But but it really is a problem for the electric vehicle industry. And Tesla recognizes that. And to their credit, they’re offering this consulting. Service to help people. Figure it all out. I mean, it’s just it’s just one thing on top of another with electric vehicles. And it’s no wonder people don’t want to buy.
Rey Treviño [00:20:16] Well, I enjoyed just the opening of that of your article which said, I don’t wake up in the morning and have to worry about basically where I’m going to go find a gas station. But that’s where your article opened up. And let’s not forget how many times we made fun of the Department of Energy. Granholm When she was trying to do that tour across America.
Stuart Turley [00:20:34] Oh, yeah.
Rey Treviño [00:20:34] And, you know, and she got arrested and staffers had to go ahead just to save her spot.
Stuart Turley [00:20:40] I think it’s the same one that was in the Senate.
David Blackmon [00:20:43] I don’t think it was the same guy. I think there was.
Stuart Turley [00:20:47] I don’t want to touch that. Okay. All right. I do. Okay. We’re out of that one. But but, you know, when you sit back and take a look at the EVs, Dr. Ireland, did you hear about when all the EV cars, the remote car, the driverless cars, the delivery cars all ganged up and met in one place? They hacked into.
David Blackmon [00:21:11] That. Was it San Francisco one or was it L.A.?
Stuart Turley [00:21:14] Yes, I believe so. I’ve got a video of it. And it was it was funny. All these cars are all lined up there, the driverless cars. And then Tesla just announced their recall on on almost all their cars. And that is bad. I got an inside scoop, some of it security, a whole bunch of security people can steal the Tesla and run over people with it. So it is a frightening we. I’m serious.
Rey Treviño [00:21:47] They recalled all of them.
Stuart Turley [00:21:49] There’s a big joke of it.
David Blackmon [00:21:51] It’s a download over the web. I mean. Right. They have to call it a recall. But you’re not having to take your Tesla Tesla.
Rey Treviño [00:22:00] Download the information to your car wow.
David Blackmon [00:22:03] You just downloaded.
Stuart Turley [00:22:05] Still there’s a whole. And and I’m telling you, it it ain’t in the Senate. It’s a hole in the in the firewall. So
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:22:13] We’ll also I think one of the vulnerable places are the charging stations. They say that it’s easy tip apparently to hack into a charging station. And then when you plug your car in, you’re basically plugging in to the Internet and and your car is in communication can be hacked into at that point.
Stuart Turley [00:22:32] Exactly. Yeah, you’re up, bro.
Rey Treviño [00:22:35] Oh, David. Just like my job right there. What are whatever the days of the 1982 Chevrolet pickup. Just put the key and start.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:22:44] That’s right
David Blackmon [00:22:46] Now. I want my 66 Buick station wagon back and I
Stuart Turley [00:22:51] I like my Cuda
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:22:56] 66 Impala that’s what I had.
David Blackmon [00:22:56] There you go. Such a classic.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:22:59] Yeah, it is. I wish I still had it.
Stuart Turley [00:23:01] Yeah, but now this tells you how old I am. I actually had a 43 Willis love my 43 Willis.
David Blackmon [00:23:10] Truck the Willis truck.
Stuart Turley [00:23:13] No, it was 43 Willis. It was the first year they made a world War.
Rey Treviño [00:23:18] I will say this with all the Tesla. No, I did just get done watching that Netflix movie with Julia Roberts, where I don’t leave nobody behind. I remember.
Stuart Turley [00:23:29] Pretty Woman.
Rey Treviño [00:23:30] No, no.
David Blackmon [00:23:30] No levers behind. Right. Lever behind.
Rey Treviño [00:23:32] Lever something. But there was a scene where all of a sudden there’s nothing but Teslas on the highway. And they were all automatically charged, automatically driven to the same spot over and over and over again. It’s where it built up. Basically,.
David Blackmon [00:23:51] It’s about Cyber attack.
Rey Treviño [00:23:51] Yeah. Yeah, they couldn’t escape.
David Blackmon [00:23:52] We watched we watched that movie last weekend. Didn’t know it was an Obama production.
Rey Treviño [00:23:56] Either did I when I watched it. Yeah.
David Blackmon [00:23:59] But my favorite part of that movie was when they’re talking about Julia Roberts and the other fellow are talking about who’s behind the cyber attack and did you catch that? They say Korea’s behind not North Korea, not South Korea, and certainly not where the big movie market is over in China. They blame Korea, nebulous Korea, because if they got China, which is where it would come from if we had one. Well, in that movie, you know, nobody in China would be watching and then they’d lose hundreds of millions of dollars. That was my favorite part of the movie, aside from all the product placement from.
Stuart Turley [00:24:39] The Christmas was horrible. And then any don’t get me wrong, Julia Roberts is doing her own action in the past. But that same scene, this movie was made 20 years ago, Ethan Hawke would have been the one to get out of the car, go see what was going on, because she got out to go see what was going on. But, you know, 20 years ago, Ethan Hawke, her husband in the movie, would have been the one to get out, go see what’s going on, and would have ran back and drove the car. But she drove the car and it’s like there’s just certain things there that it’s like those don’t add up. Say, No, honey, you stay in the car, Let me go see what’s going on. And, you know, it’s so definitely it was definitely a 2023 movie. I won’t say.
Stuart Turley [00:25:15] I can’t imagine my wife doing anything like that. She was like, Oh, wait, hey, I heard something. You know, figure out if it’s a bear.
Rey Treviño [00:25:21] Yeah.
Stuart Turley [00:25:22] I’m like, All right, I don’t know about you, but know. But it’s a bear.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:25:28] Yep.
Stuart Turley [00:25:29] Yes,.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:25:29] Yes, dear.
Rey Treviño [00:25:34] Well, you know, Dr. Ireland, I cannot thank you enough, but you had a great opportunity to come and be on this show.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:25:43] I will. I appreciate. The opportunity.
Stuart Turley [00:25:43] I’ll tell you what I thought of a brand new show. If your y’all every y’all, every box of Sunday sports. They used to do this little bit with Barry Switzer and Jimmy Johnson. It was called the Angry Coaches Point. And I think you two would be great for the angry energy gone old man energy corner with you. I think.
Stuart Turley [00:26:07] Our first guest on the three podcasters and it’s one thing to insult me and David because that’s what you do anymore, but not ever great again. David, help me out here.
David Blackmon [00:26:20] I didn’t insult anybody it was RT.
Stuart Turley [00:26:23] It’s RT. And I thought I was the squirrel. Oh, my, Doctor Ireland tell us how people can find you. Substack.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:26:32] Well, it is at Ireland dot substack dot com and please check it out.
Stuart Turley [00:26:37] Sounds fantastic in. And I’ll tell you what, I’m going to go take some of your classes just so I can get the ambiance and the aura of Dr. Ireland.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:26:50] You’ll get to hear David Blackmon talk to my class again.
Stuart Turley [00:26:54] Oh, I’m so sorry. And give us your laughs and give us your last words.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:27:00] Last words. Well, I’ll start. I’ll. I’ll get back to natural gas.
c [00:27:04] Okay.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:27:04] Just because that that’s my career is a natural gas. So I like to talk about it. But I will say it is and I emphasize this to my students. It is the fuel of the future. It’s not the transition fuel. It’s the future of the future. And one reason is we have a lot of it. And another. And therefore, it’s cheap. But in other news, it is clean. It is the cleanest burning fossil fuel, which, by the way, I think is exactly why that the EPA and other governments will not leave a decision about natural gas to the market because they know the market will. Ask for more natural gas, not less. So they’re out to make it illegal any way they can. And I always you know, you say, you know, it’s ch4. It’s almost pure hydrogen. It just has one carbon atom and four hydrogen atoms and strip out the carbon. You got hydrogen. That’s, that’s the hydrogen that, that fires off the rockets that Elon Musk used.
Stuart Turley [00:28:12] I knew I liked. So.
Dr. Ed Ireland [00:28:15] I’ll stop there.
Stuart Turley [00:28:16] Oh, we’re all doing we’re not worthy. David, thank you so much. And we always appreciate you and thanks for letting me stalk you and RT. Thank you as well. Appreciate you guys. And thank you to all our wonderful listeners and I appreciate everybody. Stand, I’m going to sheet to that note. After the last one, I’ll answer your question. It was pretty embarrassing. All right. With that, we’ll thank you guys later. We’ll see guys soon.
Washington State Governor Inslee mandating new home building codes to be electric heat pumps including prohibiting the sale and use of gas appliances.